diff --git a/common/prefix.py b/common/prefix.py
index 702b0feae4..c49cf603df 100644
--- a/common/prefix.py
+++ b/common/prefix.py
@@ -5,10 +5,11 @@ import uuid
 from typing import Optional
 
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 class OpenpilotPrefix:
   def __init__(self, prefix: Optional[str] = None, clean_dirs_on_exit: bool = True):
-    self.prefix = prefix if prefix else str(uuid.uuid4())
+    self.prefix = prefix if prefix else str(uuid.uuid4().hex[0:15])
     self.msgq_path = os.path.join('/dev/shm', self.prefix)
     self.clean_dirs_on_exit = clean_dirs_on_exit
 
@@ -18,6 +19,7 @@ class OpenpilotPrefix:
       os.mkdir(self.msgq_path)
     except FileExistsError:
       pass
+    os.makedirs(Paths.log_root(), exist_ok=True)
 
     return self
 
@@ -36,3 +38,4 @@ class OpenpilotPrefix:
       shutil.rmtree(os.path.realpath(symlink_path), ignore_errors=True)
       os.remove(symlink_path)
     shutil.rmtree(self.msgq_path, ignore_errors=True)
+    shutil.rmtree(Paths.log_root(), ignore_errors=True)
diff --git a/common/swaglog.cc b/common/swaglog.cc
index 923f701ab2..bcd597a257 100644
--- a/common/swaglog.cc
+++ b/common/swaglog.cc
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
 
 class SwaglogState : public LogState {
  public:
-  SwaglogState() : LogState("ipc:///tmp/logmessage") {}
+  SwaglogState() : LogState(Path::swaglog_ipc().c_str()) {}
 
   json11::Json::object ctx_j;
 
diff --git a/common/tests/test_swaglog.cc b/common/tests/test_swaglog.cc
index 322354d730..09bc4c3795 100644
--- a/common/tests/test_swaglog.cc
+++ b/common/tests/test_swaglog.cc
@@ -9,7 +9,6 @@
 #include "system/hardware/hw.h"
 #include "third_party/json11/json11.hpp"
 
-const char *SWAGLOG_ADDR = "ipc:///tmp/logmessage";
 std::string daemon_name = "testy";
 std::string dongle_id = "test_dongle_id";
 int LINE_NO = 0;
@@ -25,7 +24,7 @@ void log_thread(int thread_id, int msg_cnt) {
 void recv_log(int thread_cnt, int thread_msg_cnt) {
   void *zctx = zmq_ctx_new();
   void *sock = zmq_socket(zctx, ZMQ_PULL);
-  zmq_bind(sock, SWAGLOG_ADDR);
+  zmq_bind(sock, Path::swaglog_ipc().c_str());
   std::vector<int> thread_msgs(thread_cnt);
   int total_count = 0;
 
diff --git a/common/util.h b/common/util.h
index 30f514f8dc..5c0ef7fec5 100644
--- a/common/util.h
+++ b/common/util.h
@@ -188,9 +188,9 @@ class LogState {
   void *zctx = nullptr;
   void *sock = nullptr;
   int print_level;
-  const char* endpoint;
+  std::string endpoint;
 
-  LogState(const char* _endpoint) {
+  LogState(std::string _endpoint) {
     endpoint = _endpoint;
   }
 
@@ -202,7 +202,7 @@ class LogState {
     int timeout = 100;
     zmq_setsockopt(sock, ZMQ_LINGER, &timeout, sizeof(timeout));
 
-    zmq_connect(sock, endpoint);
+    zmq_connect(sock, endpoint.c_str());
     initialized = true;
   }
 
diff --git a/release/files_common b/release/files_common
index 54aece8530..3b84e09581 100644
--- a/release/files_common
+++ b/release/files_common
@@ -209,6 +209,7 @@ system/hardware/__init__.py
 system/hardware/base.h
 system/hardware/base.py
 system/hardware/hw.h
+system/hardware/hw.py
 system/hardware/tici/__init__.py
 system/hardware/tici/hardware.h
 system/hardware/tici/hardware.py
diff --git a/selfdrive/athena/athenad.py b/selfdrive/athena/athenad.py
index 49b214f5e9..9e2fdc3319 100755
--- a/selfdrive/athena/athenad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/athena/athenad.py
@@ -36,11 +36,11 @@ from openpilot.common.file_helpers import CallbackReader
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from openpilot.common.realtime import set_core_affinity
 from openpilot.system.hardware import HARDWARE, PC, AGNOS
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.xattr_cache import getxattr, setxattr
 from openpilot.selfdrive.statsd import STATS_DIR
-from openpilot.system.swaglog import SWAGLOG_DIR, cloudlog
+from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog
 from openpilot.system.version import get_commit, get_origin, get_short_branch, get_version
+from selfdrive.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 
 # TODO: use socket constant when mypy recognizes this as a valid attribute
@@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ def scan_dir(path: str, prefix: str) -> List[str]:
   # (glob and friends traverse entire dir tree)
   with os.scandir(path) as i:
     for e in i:
-      rel_path = os.path.relpath(e.path, ROOT)
+      rel_path = os.path.relpath(e.path, Paths.log_root())
       if e.is_dir(follow_symlinks=False):
         # add trailing slash
         rel_path = os.path.join(rel_path, '')
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ def scan_dir(path: str, prefix: str) -> List[str]:
 
 @dispatcher.add_method
 def listDataDirectory(prefix='') -> List[str]:
-  return scan_dir(ROOT, prefix)
+  return scan_dir(Paths.log_root(), prefix)
 
 
 @dispatcher.add_method
@@ -408,7 +408,7 @@ def uploadFilesToUrls(files_data: List[UploadFileDict]) -> UploadFilesToUrlRespo
       failed.append(file.fn)
       continue
 
-    path = os.path.join(ROOT, file.fn)
+    path = os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), file.fn)
     if not os.path.exists(path) and not os.path.exists(strip_bz2_extension(path)):
       failed.append(file.fn)
       continue
@@ -572,8 +572,8 @@ def get_logs_to_send_sorted() -> List[str]:
   # TODO: scan once then use inotify to detect file creation/deletion
   curr_time = int(time.time())
   logs = []
-  for log_entry in os.listdir(SWAGLOG_DIR):
-    log_path = os.path.join(SWAGLOG_DIR, log_entry)
+  for log_entry in os.listdir(Paths.swaglog_root()):
+    log_path = os.path.join(Paths.swaglog_root(), log_entry)
     time_sent = 0
     try:
       value = getxattr(log_path, LOG_ATTR_NAME)
@@ -608,7 +608,7 @@ def log_handler(end_event: threading.Event) -> None:
         cloudlog.debug(f"athena.log_handler.forward_request {log_entry}")
         try:
           curr_time = int(time.time())
-          log_path = os.path.join(SWAGLOG_DIR, log_entry)
+          log_path = os.path.join(Paths.swaglog_root(), log_entry)
           setxattr(log_path, LOG_ATTR_NAME, int.to_bytes(curr_time, 4, sys.byteorder))
           with open(log_path) as f:
             jsonrpc = {
@@ -635,7 +635,7 @@ def log_handler(end_event: threading.Event) -> None:
           log_success = "result" in log_resp and log_resp["result"].get("success")
           cloudlog.debug(f"athena.log_handler.forward_response {log_entry} {log_success}")
           if log_entry and log_success:
-            log_path = os.path.join(SWAGLOG_DIR, log_entry)
+            log_path = os.path.join(Paths.swaglog_root(), log_entry)
             try:
               setxattr(log_path, LOG_ATTR_NAME, LOG_ATTR_VALUE_MAX_UNIX_TIME)
             except OSError:
diff --git a/selfdrive/athena/tests/test_athenad.py b/selfdrive/athena/tests/test_athenad.py
index e088bcf356..bef622a75e 100755
--- a/selfdrive/athena/tests/test_athenad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/athena/tests/test_athenad.py
@@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ import json
 import os
 import requests
 import shutil
-import tempfile
 import time
 import threading
 import queue
@@ -18,11 +17,11 @@ from unittest import mock
 from websocket import ABNF
 from websocket._exceptions import WebSocketConnectionClosedException
 
-from openpilot.system import swaglog
 from openpilot.selfdrive.athena import athenad
 from openpilot.selfdrive.athena.athenad import MAX_RETRY_COUNT, dispatcher
 from openpilot.selfdrive.athena.tests.helpers import MockWebsocket, MockParams, MockApi, EchoSocket, with_http_server
 from cereal import messaging
+from selfdrive.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 
 class TestAthenadMethods(unittest.TestCase):
@@ -30,8 +29,6 @@ class TestAthenadMethods(unittest.TestCase):
   def setUpClass(cls):
     cls.SOCKET_PORT = 45454
     athenad.Params = MockParams
-    athenad.ROOT = tempfile.mkdtemp()
-    athenad.SWAGLOG_DIR = swaglog.SWAGLOG_DIR = tempfile.mkdtemp()
     athenad.Api = MockApi
     athenad.LOCAL_PORT_WHITELIST = {cls.SOCKET_PORT}
 
@@ -41,8 +38,8 @@ class TestAthenadMethods(unittest.TestCase):
     athenad.cur_upload_items.clear()
     athenad.cancelled_uploads.clear()
 
-    for i in os.listdir(athenad.ROOT):
-      p = os.path.join(athenad.ROOT, i)
+    for i in os.listdir(Paths.log_root()):
+      p = os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), i)
       if os.path.isdir(p):
         shutil.rmtree(p)
       else:
@@ -61,7 +58,7 @@ class TestAthenadMethods(unittest.TestCase):
 
   @staticmethod
   def _create_file(file: str, parent: Optional[str] = None) -> str:
-    fn = os.path.join(athenad.ROOT if parent is None else parent, file)
+    fn = os.path.join(Paths.log_root() if parent is None else parent, file)
     os.makedirs(os.path.dirname(fn), exist_ok=True)
     Path(fn).touch()
     return fn
@@ -418,7 +415,7 @@ class TestAthenadMethods(unittest.TestCase):
     fl = list()
     for i in range(10):
       file = f'swaglog.{i:010}'
-      self._create_file(file, athenad.SWAGLOG_DIR)
+      self._create_file(file, Paths.swaglog_root())
       fl.append(file)
 
     # ensure the list is all logs except most recent
diff --git a/selfdrive/test/helpers.py b/selfdrive/test/helpers.py
index 1fbf2c4d20..e891d8471d 100644
--- a/selfdrive/test/helpers.py
+++ b/selfdrive/test/helpers.py
@@ -111,7 +111,4 @@ def string_context(context):
 
 temporary_dir = temporary_mock_dir([], "temp_dir")
 temporary_cache_dir = temporary_mock_dir("openpilot.tools.lib.url_file.CACHE_DIR")
-temporary_swaglog_dir = temporary_mock_dir("openpilot.system.swaglog.SWAGLOG_DIR", "temp_dir")
-temporary_laikad_downloads_dir = temporary_mock_dir("openpilot.selfdrive.locationd.laikad.DOWNLOADS_CACHE_FOLDER")
-temporary_swaglog_ipc = temporary_mock_dir(["openpilot.system.swaglog.SWAGLOG_IPC", "system.logmessaged.SWAGLOG_IPC"],
-                                           generator=string_context("/tmp/test_swaglog_ipc"))
\ No newline at end of file
+temporary_laikad_downloads_dir = temporary_mock_dir("openpilot.selfdrive.locationd.laikad.DOWNLOADS_CACHE_FOLDER")
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/selfdrive/test/test_onroad.py b/selfdrive/test/test_onroad.py
index 22055d8f20..56bf9ea71d 100755
--- a/selfdrive/test/test_onroad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/test/test_onroad.py
@@ -19,8 +19,8 @@ from openpilot.common.timeout import Timeout
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from openpilot.selfdrive.controls.lib.events import EVENTS, ET
 from openpilot.system.hardware import HARDWARE
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
 from openpilot.selfdrive.test.helpers import set_params_enabled, release_only
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.tools.lib.logreader import LogReader
 
 # Baseline CPU usage by process
@@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ class TestOnroad(unittest.TestCase):
   @classmethod
   def setUpClass(cls):
     if "DEBUG" in os.environ:
-      segs = filter(lambda x: os.path.exists(os.path.join(x, "rlog")), Path(ROOT).iterdir())
+      segs = filter(lambda x: os.path.exists(os.path.join(x, "rlog")), Path(Paths.log_root()).iterdir())
       segs = sorted(segs, key=lambda x: x.stat().st_mtime)
       print(segs[-3])
       cls.lr = list(LogReader(os.path.join(segs[-3], "rlog")))
@@ -115,8 +115,8 @@ class TestOnroad(unittest.TestCase):
     params.remove("CurrentRoute")
     set_params_enabled()
     os.environ['TESTING_CLOSET'] = '1'
-    if os.path.exists(ROOT):
-      shutil.rmtree(ROOT)
+    if os.path.exists(Paths.log_root()):
+      shutil.rmtree(Paths.log_root())
     os.system("rm /dev/shm/*")
 
     # Make sure athena isn't running
@@ -143,8 +143,8 @@ class TestOnroad(unittest.TestCase):
 
         while len(cls.segments) < 3:
           segs = set()
-          if Path(ROOT).exists():
-            segs = set(Path(ROOT).glob(f"{route}--*"))
+          if Path(Paths.log_root()).exists():
+            segs = set(Path(Paths.log_root()).glob(f"{route}--*"))
           cls.segments = sorted(segs, key=lambda s: int(str(s).rsplit('--')[-1]))
           time.sleep(2)
 
diff --git a/selfdrive/tombstoned.py b/selfdrive/tombstoned.py
index 3f99e16831..a1479003ee 100755
--- a/selfdrive/tombstoned.py
+++ b/selfdrive/tombstoned.py
@@ -10,8 +10,8 @@ import glob
 from typing import NoReturn
 
 from openpilot.common.file_helpers import mkdirs_exists_ok
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
 import openpilot.selfdrive.sentry as sentry
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog
 from openpilot.system.version import get_commit
 
@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ def report_tombstone_apport(fn):
 
   new_fn = f"{date}_{get_commit(default='nocommit')[:8]}_{safe_fn(clean_path)}"[:MAX_TOMBSTONE_FN_LEN]
 
-  crashlog_dir = os.path.join(ROOT, "crash")
+  crashlog_dir = os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), "crash")
   mkdirs_exists_ok(crashlog_dir)
 
   # Files could be on different filesystems, copy, then delete
diff --git a/system/hardware/hw.h b/system/hardware/hw.h
index 1274851787..d09a0a5bc5 100644
--- a/system/hardware/hw.h
+++ b/system/hardware/hw.h
@@ -14,16 +14,30 @@
 #endif
 
 namespace Path {
-inline std::string log_root() {
-  if (const char *env = getenv("LOG_ROOT")) {
-    return env;
+  inline std::string openpilot_prefix() {
+    return util::getenv("OPENPILOT_PREFIX", "");
+  }
+
+  inline std::string comma_home() {
+    return util::getenv("HOME") + "/.comma" + Path::openpilot_prefix();
+  }
+
+  inline std::string log_root() {
+    if (const char *env = getenv("LOG_ROOT")) {
+      return env;
+    }
+    return Hardware::PC() ? Path::comma_home() + "/media/0/realdata" : "/data/media/0/realdata";
+  }
+
+  inline std::string params() {
+    return Hardware::PC() ? util::getenv("PARAMS_ROOT", Path::comma_home() + "/params") : "/data/params";
+  }
+
+  inline std::string rsa_file() {
+    return Hardware::PC() ? Path::comma_home() + "/persist/comma/id_rsa" : "/persist/comma/id_rsa";
+  }
+  
+  inline std::string swaglog_ipc() {
+    return "ipc:///tmp/logmessage" + Path::openpilot_prefix();
   }
-  return Hardware::PC() ? util::getenv("HOME") + "/.comma/media/0/realdata" : "/data/media/0/realdata";
-}
-inline std::string params() {
-  return Hardware::PC() ? util::getenv("PARAMS_ROOT", util::getenv("HOME") + "/.comma/params") : "/data/params";
-}
-inline std::string rsa_file() {
-  return Hardware::PC() ? util::getenv("HOME") + "/.comma/persist/comma/id_rsa" : "/persist/comma/id_rsa";
-}
 }  // namespace Path
diff --git a/system/hardware/hw.py b/system/hardware/hw.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..5038f1a578
--- /dev/null
+++ b/system/hardware/hw.py
@@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
+import os
+from pathlib import Path
+
+from openpilot.selfdrive.hardware import PC
+
+class Paths:
+  @staticmethod
+  def comma_home() -> str:
+    return os.path.join(str(Path.home()), ".comma" + os.environ.get("OPENPILOT_PREFIX", ""))
+
+  @staticmethod
+  def log_root() -> str:
+    if os.environ.get('LOG_ROOT', False):
+      return os.environ['LOG_ROOT']
+    elif PC:
+      return str(Path(Paths.comma_home()) / "media" / "0" / "realdata")
+    else:
+      return '/data/media/0/realdata/'
+
+  @staticmethod
+  def swaglog_root() -> str:
+    if PC:
+      return os.path.join(Paths.comma_home(), "log")
+    else:
+      return "/data/log/"
+
+  @staticmethod
+  def swaglog_ipc() -> str:
+    return "ipc:///tmp/logmessage" + os.environ.get("OPENPILOT_PREFIX", "")
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/system/loggerd/config.py b/system/loggerd/config.py
index dfc117f2c1..0245585fc0 100644
--- a/system/loggerd/config.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/config.py
@@ -1,13 +1,7 @@
 import os
 from pathlib import Path
 from openpilot.system.hardware import PC
-
-if os.environ.get('LOG_ROOT', False):
-  ROOT = os.environ['LOG_ROOT']
-elif PC:
-  ROOT = str(Path.home() / ".comma" / "media" / "0" / "realdata")
-else:
-  ROOT = '/data/media/0/realdata/'
+from openpilot.selfdrive.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 
 CAMERA_FPS = 20
@@ -23,7 +17,7 @@ STATS_FLUSH_TIME_S = 60
 
 def get_available_percent(default=None):
   try:
-    statvfs = os.statvfs(ROOT)
+    statvfs = os.statvfs(Paths.log_root())
     available_percent = 100.0 * statvfs.f_bavail / statvfs.f_blocks
   except OSError:
     available_percent = default
@@ -33,7 +27,7 @@ def get_available_percent(default=None):
 
 def get_available_bytes(default=None):
   try:
-    statvfs = os.statvfs(ROOT)
+    statvfs = os.statvfs(Paths.log_root())
     available_bytes = statvfs.f_bavail * statvfs.f_frsize
   except OSError:
     available_bytes = default
diff --git a/system/loggerd/deleter.py b/system/loggerd/deleter.py
index ab4a0b97c1..b060232b6e 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/deleter.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/deleter.py
@@ -3,9 +3,9 @@ import os
 import shutil
 import threading
 from typing import List
-
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT, get_available_bytes, get_available_percent
+from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import get_available_bytes, get_available_percent
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.uploader import listdir_by_creation
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.xattr_cache import getxattr
 
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ PRESERVE_COUNT = 5
 
 
 def has_preserve_xattr(d: str) -> bool:
-  return getxattr(os.path.join(ROOT, d), PRESERVE_ATTR_NAME) == PRESERVE_ATTR_VALUE
+  return getxattr(os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), d), PRESERVE_ATTR_NAME) == PRESERVE_ATTR_VALUE
 
 
 def get_preserved_segments(dirs_by_creation: List[str]) -> List[str]:
@@ -51,14 +51,14 @@ def deleter_thread(exit_event):
     out_of_percent = get_available_percent(default=MIN_PERCENT + 1) < MIN_PERCENT
 
     if out_of_percent or out_of_bytes:
-      dirs = listdir_by_creation(ROOT)
+      dirs = listdir_by_creation(Paths.log_root())
 
       # skip deleting most recent N preserved segments (and their prior segment)
       preserved_dirs = get_preserved_segments(dirs)
 
       # remove the earliest directory we can
       for delete_dir in sorted(dirs, key=lambda d: (d in DELETE_LAST, d in preserved_dirs)):
-        delete_path = os.path.join(ROOT, delete_dir)
+        delete_path = os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), delete_dir)
 
         if any(name.endswith(".lock") for name in os.listdir(delete_path)):
           continue
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/fill.py b/system/loggerd/tests/fill.py
index c749f42b97..5e6f887b12 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/fill.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/fill.py
@@ -3,7 +3,8 @@
 
 from pathlib import Path
 
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT, get_available_percent
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
+from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import get_available_percent
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.tests.loggerd_tests_common import create_random_file
 
 
@@ -11,7 +12,7 @@ if __name__ == "__main__":
   segment_idx = 0
   while True:
     seg_name = f"1970-01-01--00-00-00--{segment_idx}"
-    seg_path = Path(ROOT) / seg_name
+    seg_path = Path(Paths.log_root()) / seg_name
 
     print(seg_path)
 
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/loggerd_tests_common.py b/system/loggerd/tests/loggerd_tests_common.py
index 89ddbd658c..8bfb571861 100644
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/loggerd_tests_common.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/loggerd_tests_common.py
@@ -1,11 +1,9 @@
 import os
-import errno
-import shutil
 import random
-import tempfile
 import unittest
 from pathlib import Path
 from typing import Optional
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 import openpilot.system.loggerd.deleter as deleter
 import openpilot.system.loggerd.uploader as uploader
@@ -87,8 +85,6 @@ class UploaderTestCase(unittest.TestCase):
     uploader.Api = MockApiIgnore
 
   def setUp(self):
-    self.root = Path(tempfile.mkdtemp())
-    uploader.ROOT = str(self.root)  # Monkey patch root dir
     uploader.Api = MockApi
     uploader.Params = MockParams
     uploader.fake_upload = True
@@ -99,16 +95,9 @@ class UploaderTestCase(unittest.TestCase):
     self.seg_format2 = "2019-05-18--11-22-33--{}"
     self.seg_dir = self.seg_format.format(self.seg_num)
 
-  def tearDown(self):
-    try:
-      shutil.rmtree(self.root)
-    except OSError as e:
-      if e.errno != errno.ENOENT:
-        raise
-
   def make_file_with_data(self, f_dir: str, fn: str, size_mb: float = .1, lock: bool = False,
                           upload_xattr: Optional[bytes] = None, preserve_xattr: Optional[bytes] = None) -> Path:
-    file_path = self.root / f_dir / fn
+    file_path = Path(Paths.log_root()) / f_dir / fn
     create_random_file(file_path, size_mb, lock, upload_xattr)
 
     if preserve_xattr is not None:
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/test_deleter.py b/system/loggerd/tests/test_deleter.py
index 86152b05f8..e4112b7b4e 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/test_deleter.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/test_deleter.py
@@ -22,7 +22,6 @@ class TestDeleter(UploaderTestCase):
     super().setUp()
     self.fake_stats = Stats(f_bavail=0, f_blocks=10, f_frsize=4096)
     deleter.os.statvfs = self.fake_statvfs
-    deleter.ROOT = str(self.root)
 
   def start_thread(self):
     self.end_event = threading.Event()
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/test_encoder.py b/system/loggerd/tests/test_encoder.py
index 41b83c0821..bec956a316 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/test_encoder.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/test_encoder.py
@@ -14,9 +14,9 @@ from tqdm import trange
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from openpilot.common.timeout import Timeout
 from openpilot.system.hardware import TICI
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
 from openpilot.selfdrive.manager.process_config import managed_processes
 from openpilot.tools.lib.logreader import LogReader
+from openpilot.selfdrive.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 SEGMENT_LENGTH = 2
 FULL_SIZE = 2507572
@@ -48,12 +48,12 @@ class TestEncoder(unittest.TestCase):
     self._clear_logs()
 
   def _clear_logs(self):
-    if os.path.exists(ROOT):
-      shutil.rmtree(ROOT)
+    if os.path.exists(Paths.log_root()):
+      shutil.rmtree(Paths.log_root())
 
   def _get_latest_segment_path(self):
-    last_route = sorted(Path(ROOT).iterdir())[-1]
-    return os.path.join(ROOT, last_route)
+    last_route = sorted(Path(Paths.log_root()).iterdir())[-1]
+    return os.path.join(Paths.log_root(), last_route)
 
   # TODO: this should run faster than real time
   @parameterized.expand([(True, ), (False, )])
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ class TestEncoder(unittest.TestCase):
       for i in trange(num_segments):
         # poll for next segment
         with Timeout(int(SEGMENT_LENGTH*10), error_msg=f"timed out waiting for segment {i}"):
-          while Path(f"{route_prefix_path}--{i+1}") not in Path(ROOT).iterdir():
+          while Path(f"{route_prefix_path}--{i+1}") not in Path(Paths.log_root()).iterdir():
             time.sleep(0.1)
         check_seg(i)
     finally:
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/test_loggerd.py b/system/loggerd/tests/test_loggerd.py
index 816a4d4198..7d0959863e 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/test_loggerd.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/test_loggerd.py
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ from cereal.services import service_list
 from openpilot.common.basedir import BASEDIR
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from openpilot.common.timeout import Timeout
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.xattr_cache import getxattr
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.deleter import PRESERVE_ATTR_NAME, PRESERVE_ATTR_VALUE
 from openpilot.selfdrive.manager.process_config import managed_processes
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ CEREAL_SERVICES = [f for f in log.Event.schema.union_fields if f in service_list
 
 class TestLoggerd(unittest.TestCase):
   def _get_latest_log_dir(self):
-    log_dirs = sorted(Path(ROOT).iterdir(), key=lambda f: f.stat().st_mtime)
+    log_dirs = sorted(Path(Paths.log_root()).iterdir(), key=lambda f: f.stat().st_mtime)
     return log_dirs[-1]
 
   def _get_log_dir(self, x):
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tests/test_uploader.py b/system/loggerd/tests/test_uploader.py
index 6e2f86d6ca..a7349fc5e4 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/tests/test_uploader.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tests/test_uploader.py
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ import logging
 import json
 from pathlib import Path
 from typing import List, Optional
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.uploader import uploader_fn, UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME, UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE
@@ -84,7 +85,7 @@ class TestUploader(UploaderTestCase):
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) < len(exp_order), "Some files failed to upload")
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) > len(exp_order), "Some files were uploaded twice")
     for f_path in exp_order:
-      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((self.root / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
+      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((Path(Paths.log_root()) / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
 
     self.assertTrue(log_handler.upload_order == exp_order, "Files uploaded in wrong order")
 
@@ -102,7 +103,7 @@ class TestUploader(UploaderTestCase):
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) < len(exp_order), "Some files failed to upload")
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) > len(exp_order), "Some files were uploaded twice")
     for f_path in exp_order:
-      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((self.root / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
+      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((Path(Paths.log_root()) / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
 
     self.assertTrue(log_handler.upload_order == exp_order, "Files uploaded in wrong order")
 
@@ -121,7 +122,7 @@ class TestUploader(UploaderTestCase):
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_ignored) < len(exp_order), "Some files failed to ignore")
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_ignored) > len(exp_order), "Some files were ignored twice")
     for f_path in exp_order:
-      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((self.root / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not ignored")
+      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((Path(Paths.log_root()) / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not ignored")
 
     self.assertTrue(log_handler.upload_ignored == exp_order, "Files ignored in wrong order")
 
@@ -146,7 +147,7 @@ class TestUploader(UploaderTestCase):
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) < len(exp_order), "Some files failed to upload")
     self.assertFalse(len(log_handler.upload_order) > len(exp_order), "Some files were uploaded twice")
     for f_path in exp_order:
-      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((self.root / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
+      self.assertEqual(os.getxattr((Path(Paths.log_root()) / f_path).with_suffix(""), UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME), UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE, "All files not uploaded")
 
     self.assertTrue(log_handler.upload_order == exp_order, "Files uploaded in wrong order")
 
diff --git a/system/loggerd/tools/mark_all_uploaded.py b/system/loggerd/tools/mark_all_uploaded.py
index 84b9c20d78..0502184380 100644
--- a/system/loggerd/tools/mark_all_uploaded.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/tools/mark_all_uploaded.py
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 import os
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.uploader import UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME, UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE
 
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
-for folder in os.walk(ROOT):
+for folder in os.walk(Paths.log_root()):
   for file1 in folder[2]:
     full_path = os.path.join(folder[0], file1)
     os.setxattr(full_path, UPLOAD_ATTR_NAME, UPLOAD_ATTR_VALUE)
diff --git a/system/loggerd/uploader.py b/system/loggerd/uploader.py
index 8ed60dac56..12c6ecdca9 100755
--- a/system/loggerd/uploader.py
+++ b/system/loggerd/uploader.py
@@ -17,8 +17,8 @@ from openpilot.common.api import Api
 from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from openpilot.common.realtime import set_core_affinity
 from openpilot.system.hardware import TICI
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.loggerd.xattr_cache import getxattr, setxattr
-from openpilot.system.loggerd.config import ROOT
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog
 
 NetworkType = log.DeviceState.NetworkType
@@ -244,7 +244,7 @@ def uploader_fn(exit_event: threading.Event) -> None:
   except Exception:
     cloudlog.exception("failed to set core affinity")
 
-  clear_locks(ROOT)
+  clear_locks(Paths.log_root())
 
   params = Params()
   dongle_id = params.get("DongleId", encoding='utf8')
@@ -258,7 +258,7 @@ def uploader_fn(exit_event: threading.Event) -> None:
 
   sm = messaging.SubMaster(['deviceState'])
   pm = messaging.PubMaster(['uploaderState'])
-  uploader = Uploader(dongle_id, ROOT)
+  uploader = Uploader(dongle_id, Paths.log_root())
 
   backoff = 0.1
   while not exit_event.is_set():
diff --git a/system/logmessaged.py b/system/logmessaged.py
index 4799348990..c53e20e483 100755
--- a/system/logmessaged.py
+++ b/system/logmessaged.py
@@ -4,8 +4,8 @@ from typing import NoReturn
 
 import cereal.messaging as messaging
 from openpilot.common.logging_extra import SwagLogFileFormatter
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import get_file_handler
-from system.swaglog import SWAGLOG_IPC
 
 
 def main() -> NoReturn:
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ def main() -> NoReturn:
 
   ctx = zmq.Context.instance()
   sock = ctx.socket(zmq.PULL)
-  sock.bind(f"ipc://{SWAGLOG_IPC}")
+  sock.bind(Paths.swaglog_ipc())
 
   # and we publish them
   log_message_sock = messaging.pub_sock('logMessage')
diff --git a/system/swaglog.py b/system/swaglog.py
index 6ccd0d9791..8130aeb0fb 100644
--- a/system/swaglog.py
+++ b/system/swaglog.py
@@ -8,18 +8,12 @@ from logging.handlers import BaseRotatingHandler
 import zmq
 
 from openpilot.common.logging_extra import SwagLogger, SwagFormatter, SwagLogFileFormatter
-from openpilot.system.hardware import PC
+from system.hardware.hw import Paths
 
-if PC:
-  SWAGLOG_DIR = os.path.join(str(Path.home()), ".comma", "log")
-else:
-  SWAGLOG_DIR = "/data/log/"
-
-SWAGLOG_IPC = "/tmp/logmessage"
 
 def get_file_handler():
-  Path(SWAGLOG_DIR).mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)
-  base_filename = os.path.join(SWAGLOG_DIR, "swaglog")
+  Path(Paths.swaglog_root()).mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)
+  base_filename = os.path.join(Paths.swaglog_root(), "swaglog")
   handler = SwaglogRotatingFileHandler(base_filename)
   return handler
 
@@ -91,7 +85,7 @@ class UnixDomainSocketHandler(logging.Handler):
     self.zctx = zmq.Context()
     self.sock = self.zctx.socket(zmq.PUSH)
     self.sock.setsockopt(zmq.LINGER, 10)
-    self.sock.connect(f"ipc://{SWAGLOG_IPC}")
+    self.sock.connect(Paths.swaglog_ipc())
     self.pid = os.getpid()
 
   def emit(self, record):
diff --git a/system/tests/test_logmessaged.py b/system/tests/test_logmessaged.py
index 0b70774bbb..2657ab4615 100755
--- a/system/tests/test_logmessaged.py
+++ b/system/tests/test_logmessaged.py
@@ -6,17 +6,16 @@ import unittest
 
 import cereal.messaging as messaging
 from openpilot.selfdrive.manager.process_config import managed_processes
+from openpilot.system.hardware.hw import Paths
 from openpilot.system.swaglog import cloudlog, ipchandler
-from openpilot.selfdrive.test.helpers import temporary_swaglog_dir, temporary_swaglog_ipc
 
 
 class TestLogmessaged(unittest.TestCase):
-  def _setup(self, temp_dir):
+  def setUp(self):
     # clear the IPC buffer in case some other tests used cloudlog and filled it
     ipchandler.close()
     ipchandler.connect()
 
-    self.temp_dir = temp_dir
     managed_processes['logmessaged'].start()
     self.sock = messaging.sub_sock("logMessage", timeout=1000, conflate=False)
     self.error_sock = messaging.sub_sock("logMessage", timeout=1000, conflate=False)
@@ -32,12 +31,9 @@ class TestLogmessaged(unittest.TestCase):
     managed_processes['logmessaged'].stop(block=True)
 
   def _get_log_files(self):
-    return list(glob.glob(os.path.join(self.temp_dir, "swaglog.*")))
+    return list(glob.glob(os.path.join(Paths.swaglog_root(), "swaglog.*")))
 
-  @temporary_swaglog_dir
-  @temporary_swaglog_ipc
-  def test_simple_log(self, temp_dir):
-    self._setup(temp_dir)
+  def test_simple_log(self):
     msgs = [f"abc {i}" for i in range(10)]
     for m in msgs:
       cloudlog.error(m)
@@ -46,10 +42,7 @@ class TestLogmessaged(unittest.TestCase):
     assert len(m) == len(msgs)
     assert len(self._get_log_files()) >= 1
 
-  @temporary_swaglog_dir
-  @temporary_swaglog_ipc
-  def test_big_log(self, temp_dir):
-    self._setup(temp_dir)
+  def test_big_log(self):
     n = 10
     msg = "a"*3*1024*1024
     for _ in range(n):