diff --git a/test/test_gc.py b/test/test_gc.py
index 37e632ac..8b7979e9 100644
--- a/test/test_gc.py
+++ b/test/test_gc.py
@@ -21,24 +21,26 @@ class TestGC(unittest.TestCase):
     (a*b).mean().backward()
     assert (tensors_allocated() > 0)
     del a,b
-    assert (tensors_allocated() == 1) # one for Tensor._device_rng_counters
+    assert (tensors_allocated() == 2) # one for Tensor._device_rng_counters, and one for Tensor._device_seeds
+    Tensor.manual_seed(0)
 
   def test_gc_complex(self):
     Tensor.manual_seed(0)
     a = Tensor(np.zeros((4, 4), dtype=np.float32), requires_grad=True)
     b = Tensor.rand(4, 4, requires_grad=True)
-    assert (tensors_allocated() == 4)
-    (a*b).mean().backward()
     assert (tensors_allocated() == 5)
+    (a*b).mean().backward()
+    assert (tensors_allocated() == 6)
     del b
-    assert (tensors_allocated() == 3)
+    assert (tensors_allocated() == 4)
     b = Tensor(np.zeros((4, 4), dtype=np.float32), requires_grad=True)
     print(tensors_allocated())
     (a*b).mean().backward()
     print(tensors_allocated())
-    assert (tensors_allocated() == 5)
+    assert (tensors_allocated() == 6)
     del b
-    assert (tensors_allocated() == 3)
+    assert (tensors_allocated() == 4)
+    Tensor.manual_seed(0)
 
   def test_schedule_gc(self):
     init = bufs_allocated()
diff --git a/test/test_jit.py b/test/test_jit.py
index 6cb13409..6988a5ee 100644
--- a/test/test_jit.py
+++ b/test/test_jit.py
@@ -307,6 +307,14 @@ class TestJit(unittest.TestCase):
     assert len(res3) == 10, "All values should be different, rand works in jit."
     assert res3 != res2, "Jit rand is diff with diff seeds"
 
+  def test_jit_random_after_unrealized_random(self):
+    @TinyJit
+    def f(): return Tensor.rand()
+    Tensor.manual_seed(1234)
+    Tensor.rand()
+    res = [f().numpy() for _ in range(3)]
+    assert res[1] != res[2]
+
   def test_jit_realization_and_sampling(self):
     w = Tensor.eye(5)
 
diff --git a/test/test_randomness.py b/test/test_randomness.py
index 43c6ea59..daa5effe 100644
--- a/test/test_randomness.py
+++ b/test/test_randomness.py
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ class TestRandomness(unittest.TestCase):
     equal_distribution(lambda *x: Tensor.rand(*x, dtype=dtypes.float16), torch.rand, lambda x: np.random.rand(*x), shape=(2, N, N))
 
   @unittest.skipIf(CI and Device.DEFAULT == "NV", "gpuocelot doesn't support certain ops needed for threefry")
-  def test_threefly_against_reference(self):
+  def test_threefry_against_reference(self):
     Tensor.manual_seed(1337)
 
     # reference generated using
@@ -92,11 +92,11 @@ class TestRandomness(unittest.TestCase):
 
     counts = Tensor.arange(20, dtype=dtypes.uint32)
     counts0, counts1 = counts.chunk(2)
-    r = Tensor._threefry_random_bits(1337, 0, counts0, counts1).numpy()
+    r = Tensor._threefry_random_bits(1337 << 32, counts0, counts1).numpy()
 
     np.testing.assert_allclose(jr, r)
 
-  def test_threefly_against_reference_full(self):
+  def test_threefry_against_reference_full(self):
     Tensor.manual_seed(1337)
 
     # reference generated using
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ class TestRandomness(unittest.TestCase):
     np.testing.assert_allclose(jr, r, atol=1e-5, rtol=1e-5)
 
   @unittest.skipIf(CI and Device.DEFAULT in ("GPU", "CUDA", "METAL", "NV"), "no GPU CI")
-  def test_threefly_tensors_cnt(self):
+  def test_threefry_tensors_cnt(self):
     Tensor.manual_seed(1337)
 
     Tensor.rand(20).realize()
@@ -136,6 +136,31 @@ class TestRandomness(unittest.TestCase):
     assert len(Tensor._device_rng_counters) == 0
     assert len(Tensor._device_seeds) == 0
 
+  @unittest.skipIf(CI and Device.DEFAULT in ("GPU", "CUDA", "METAL", "NV"), "no GPU CI")
+  def test_threefry_same_kernels(self):
+    Tensor.manual_seed(0)
+
+    Tensor.rand(1).realize()
+
+    s = Tensor.rand(20).schedule()
+    s2 = Tensor.rand(20).schedule()
+
+    assert len(s) == len(s2), f"{len(s)} != {len(s2)}"
+    for x,y in zip(s, s2):
+      if not (x.ast == y.ast):
+        print(f"{x.ast} != {y.ast}")
+
+    Tensor.rand(1, device=f"{Device.DEFAULT}:1").realize()
+
+    s3 = Tensor.rand(20, device=f"{Device.DEFAULT}:1").schedule()
+    s4 = Tensor.rand(20, device=f"{Device.DEFAULT}:1").schedule()
+
+    assert len(s3) == len(s4), f"{len(s3)} != {len(s4)}"
+    assert len(s2) == len(s4), f"{len(s)} != {len(s3)}"
+    for x,y in zip(s3, s4):
+      if not (x.ast == y.ast):
+        print(f"{x.ast} != {y.ast}")
+
   @unittest.skipUnless(is_dtype_supported(dtypes.bfloat16), "need bfloat16 support")
   def test_rand_bfloat16(self):
     N = 128
diff --git a/tinygrad/tensor.py b/tinygrad/tensor.py
index 507fcc25..0adbb557 100644
--- a/tinygrad/tensor.py
+++ b/tinygrad/tensor.py
@@ -426,7 +426,7 @@ class Tensor:
     return r
 
   _seed: int = int(time.time())
-  _device_seeds: Dict[str, int] = {}
+  _device_seeds: Dict[str, Tensor] = {}
   _device_rng_counters: Dict[str, Tensor] = {}
   @staticmethod
   def manual_seed(seed=0):
@@ -447,9 +447,8 @@ class Tensor:
     Tensor._seed, Tensor._device_seeds, Tensor._device_rng_counters = seed, {}, {}
 
   @staticmethod
-  def _threefry_random_bits(key0, key1, counts0, counts1):
+  def _threefry_random_bits(key, counts0, counts1):
     x = (counts1.cast(dtypes.uint64) << 32) | counts0.cast(dtypes.uint64)
-    key = (Tensor([key0], device=x.device, dtype=dtypes.uint64, requires_grad=False) << 32) | key1
     x = F.Threefry.apply(*x._broadcasted(key))
     counts0, counts1 = (x & 0xffffffff).cast(dtypes.uint32), ((x >> 32) & 0xffffffff).cast(dtypes.uint32)
     return counts0.cat(counts1)
@@ -478,7 +477,9 @@ class Tensor:
 
     # generate per device seeds and rng counter if we haven't seen this device yet
     if device not in Tensor._device_seeds:
-      Tensor._device_seeds[device] = int.from_bytes(hashlib.sha256(len(Tensor._device_seeds).to_bytes(4, "big")).digest(), "big") & 0xffffffff
+      Tensor._device_seeds[device] = Tensor([((Tensor._seed & 0xffffffff) << 32) \
+        | int.from_bytes(hashlib.sha256(len(Tensor._device_seeds).to_bytes(4, "big")).digest(), "big") & 0xffffffff],
+                                            device=device, dtype=dtypes.uint64, requires_grad=False)
       Tensor._device_rng_counters[device] = Tensor([0], device=device, dtype=dtypes.uint32, requires_grad=False)
       had_counter = False
     else: had_counter = True
@@ -487,12 +488,12 @@ class Tensor:
     if (num := ceildiv(((num_ := prod(shape)) * dtype.itemsize), 4)) == 0: return Tensor.zeros(shape, device=_device, dtype=dtype, **kwargs)
 
     # increment rng counter for devices
-    if had_counter: Tensor._device_rng_counters[device].assign(Tensor._device_rng_counters[device] + num)
+    if had_counter: Tensor._device_rng_counters[device].assign(Tensor._device_rng_counters[device] + num).contiguous()
 
     # threefry random bits
     counts0 = (Tensor.arange(ceildiv(num, 2), device=device, dtype=dtypes.uint32, requires_grad=False)+Tensor._device_rng_counters[device])
     counts1 = counts0 + ceildiv(num, 2)
-    bits = Tensor._threefry_random_bits(Tensor._seed, Tensor._device_seeds[device], counts0, counts1)[:num]
+    bits = Tensor._threefry_random_bits(Tensor._device_seeds[device], counts0, counts1)[:num]
 
     # bitcast to uint with same number of bits
     _, nmant = dtypes.finfo(dtype)